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[HWK]SittingBull · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: The horse: the stirrup

As we all know, very often the cavalry is the element in warfare often determining defeat or victory. And as we all know as well cavalry could not be used to it s full effectiveness before the invention of the stirrup. The stirrup allowed it s rider to strike a powerfull blow in the enemy through a spear or a lance. It was only alexander the great who managed to introduce a really effective cavalry force, god knows how.
I am starting to think that the uneffectiveness of cavalry before the invention of the stirrup is a myth. And who invented the stirrup? I have heard 2 version: The huns brought it to europe in the 5th century AD or tyhe mogols in the 12 and 13th centuries AD.

I have tried riding a horse without strirrups and exept for troth it is all just as easy without ( exept for jumping which IS pretty hard without stirrup) When countering I still had the same amount of control over my horse and it felt like that if I would have a lnce in my hand i could still strike a powerfull blow if only that lady who runs the riding place would allow me to ride with a lance in my hand...

So who knows more of any proof of the introduction of the stirrup? or it s effectiveness??
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Sharpe · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject:

Huns 5th century AD, im almost certain thats the correct 1.

While riding without stirrups isnt hard at all it would be extremely hard to get any power behind a lance thrust w/out stirrups, you couldnt stand up and just the lances impact could be enough to knock the person backwards off there horse. Cavalry before the Stirrup was much different (and less effective) then post stirrup cavalry.

I also remember reading somewhere that the parithians used the stirrup rather early? any1 else heard of this.

The invention of the stirrup was one of the greatest improvements to mounted troops ever
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[HWK]Theosis · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:

Sharpe · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject:

" Maybe she thinks it would scare the other kids at the mall for someone that is riding the mechanical childs horse in front of her store to show up at the store with a 12 foot lance ready for action. "

loooooooooooooooool

Laughing

i think that coulda been the reason theo Razz

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[HWK]axlethehawk · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject:

I have just been left absolutely wetting myself at your comments Theo............very funny indeed m8. Cool

I hope S.B doesn't take offence...............well not too much anyways Laughing

hey S.B. I think you should post a picture riding a horse, minus the stirrups and charging, lance in hand. Cool

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[HWK]Theosis · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

On The Field of Honour Chasing down the enemy stragglers.

The battle hardened warrior giving his troops a fierce glance prior to him screaming.... CHARGE!!!

His lance in an upright position used when preparing to charge the enemy lines.

The mighty general upon what obviously appears to be a descendent of Bucephalus himself!

Laughing

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[HWK]axlethehawk · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject:

Is it me , or does S.B. seem shorter than usual ?
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Sharpe · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:29 am Post subject:

its you axle, im pretty sure SB was always pint Sized Razz

althoug im no giant at 5'8 1/2 meself either Smile

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[HWK]SittingBull · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject:

1m 69cm and growing lol.
fine I ll get a pic of myslef on my great charger in a kenyan field marching of to the beautifull rift valeay and vulcanic Ngong hills ready to charge the infidels! damn, no more infidels in kenya fine I ll go chopping down anglicans instead HAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAA (in an evil voice and in an evil mood, high on air
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[HWK]Theosis · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject:

Better make sure first to get that ladies permission....
Laughing

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